Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/02/2001 01:41 PM Senate JUD

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           HB 13-SERVICE AREAS: VOTER APPROVAL/TAX ZONES                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE,  sponsor of HB 13, said the bill was about                                                            
smaller government, local  control, and privatization.  HB 13 allows                                                            
people in limited  service areas, where changes are  needed, to have                                                            
a vote on the  changes.  There are 200 service areas  in Alaska with                                                            
Fairbanks  having  more than  100.   In order  for  the borough  and                                                            
Municipality  of Anchorage to combine,  people who had limited  road                                                            
service areas  had to be assured a right to maintain  those areas in                                                            
order to convince  them that consolidation  was a good idea.   HB 13                                                            
guarantees  the status quo in areas  where people are contemplating                                                             
consolidations.   HB 13 says that if there is to be  a consolidation                                                            
alteration  there has to  be a majority vote  by both entities,  the                                                            
service  area and the  surrounding area.   The  bill allows  for the                                                            
consolidation  of  many service  areas  for  administrative  savings                                                            
while  maintaining   a   differential  taxation   rate.     Improved                                                            
subdivisions  with a  higher level  of road service  and areas  with                                                            
more traditional  Alaskan roads with  a lower level of road  service                                                            
can each maintain  their own level  of service.  The bill  last year                                                            
only applied to  areas with 60,000 people or more  and HB 13 applies                                                            
to everyone in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked how HB 13 would impact home rule cities.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE said  there  are currently  53 limitations  in                                                            
statute on  home rule cities and HB  13 would add one more  statute.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR  said  he thought  HB  13 would  impact  home  rule                                                            
cities,  and that  the primary  thrust of  HB 13 was  to "go  after"                                                            
unified city/borough governments.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE said  unified city/borough governments were the                                                            
primary thrust  of HB 13  but it also would  have an impact  on home                                                            
rule cities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked what that impact would be.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE said  there would be  an impact if the  cities                                                            
had service areas.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked how  home rule cities with service areas would                                                            
be treated differently after the passage of HB 13.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE said  an alteration or change in a service area                                                            
would require  a majority  vote of the entire  community before  any                                                            
change could take place.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR said  home rule  cities  now have  authority for  a                                                            
differential   tax  structure   but  unified   cities,  because   of                                                            
city/borough  unification, do not.   He asked if HB 13 would  change                                                            
that so unified cities would have a differential tax structure.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   BUNDE  said  unified   cities  might  now   have  a                                                            
differential tax structure.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR THERRIAULT said  last year he was concerned with the expense                                                            
of  a certain  fire  service  area.    He  asked if  this  had  been                                                            
addressed on page 2, lines 19 through 22.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE said yes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  asked how  the language  worked if there  was an                                                            
existing service  area with a valley portion and a  hill portion and                                                            
the people on the hill  needed their roads sanded, which would be an                                                            
additional  expense.   Would  the  new language  allow  an  existing                                                            
service area  to "carve up a certain  portion and go to the  borough                                                            
assembly and ask  that they pay an extra quarter mill  for something                                                            
of that nature  to allow for the sanding on their  roads because the                                                            
roads down the valley don't need to be sanded?"                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE  replied  it  would  not  affect  an  existing                                                            
service  area that  could  subdivide  and a  majority  vote of  both                                                            
entities  would   be  needed  to   subdivide.    HB  13   calls  for                                                            
differential   taxation  if  two   entities  want  to  combine   for                                                            
administrative savings within a subdivision.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  said the mill rate within a service  area is now                                                            
voted on by  the residents of that  area.  If there were  a thousand                                                            
people living in the valley  and 250 people up on the hill, he asked                                                            
if  the people  in  the valley  would  be able  to impose  a  higher                                                            
millage rate on the people up the hill.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE replied yes,  because the entire service  area                                                            
would vote it on.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  asked if  Representative  Bunde  would have  an                                                            
objection to adding  language that said something  to the effect of:                                                            
"generated differential  millage rate monies have to be spent within                                                            
the area that generated it."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE replied no.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  said that HB 13  talks about subsets  within the                                                            
service area,  but he did  not know if there  was language  covering                                                            
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE said subsets  would still be separate  service                                                            
areas and they  would only be combined to save administrative  fees.                                                            
Subsets  would still  have  a differential  taxation  rate with  the                                                            
intent that  Group A's  level of taxation  be spent  on Group  A and                                                            
Group B's level of taxation be spent on Group B.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said this  could be a "real can of worms."  It would                                                            
be difficult  to  draft language  that would  specifically  allocate                                                            
where the funds  were to be spent  within a service area.   He noted                                                            
that  whether  this could  or  should be  done  would  be a  serious                                                            
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE thought he had not explained  the intent well.                                                            
He said if  there were two service  areas, Group A and Group  B, and                                                            
they were combined  and had differential taxation  rates, the monies                                                            
assessed on  Group A would be spent  on Group A and monies  assessed                                                            
on Group B  would be spent on Group  B.  There would be no  crossing                                                            
of funds.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said he was not sure of this.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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MR. JEFFERY BUSH,  Deputy Commissioner, Department  of Community and                                                            
Economic Development (DCED),  started by following up on some of the                                                            
questions asked earlier  in the meeting.  He said the administration                                                            
did not  oppose Sec. 4 of  HB 13 but it was  opposed to the  rest of                                                            
the bill.   Sec. 4 allows  the assembly,  by ordnance, to  establish                                                            
differential  taxation rates  within service  areas and that  can be                                                            
within an existing area.   This is to allow for the consolidation of                                                            
services  areas so  they can combine  and have  differential  rates.                                                            
Another  question  was regarding  the  requirement  that  additional                                                            
assessments be used for  the people who were assessed.  HB 13 allows                                                            
this by saying  it allows for different levels of  taxation to occur                                                            
"for a different  level of services  than provided generally  in the                                                            
service  areas."    The  implication   being  that  when  there  are                                                            
differential  levels of service, a  different differential  rate can                                                            
be assessed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUSH said  this bill came to the  Governor last year  as HB 133.                                                            
He vetoed it and he still  finds it objectionable.  The objection is                                                            
not to differential  taxation, the  objection is to the rest  of the                                                            
bill, which  the Governor views as  limiting the power of  municipal                                                            
governments and  boroughs by requiring service areas,  which are not                                                            
a government  entity,  to veto powers  at the  borough, which  could                                                            
otherwise   be  exercised   at  the   borough,   level.     Alaska's                                                            
constitution  creates borough  governments  and there  is a  dispute                                                            
over whether the constitution  would even prohibit HB 13 because the                                                            
state cannot  limit the  powers of  boroughs except  if there  is an                                                            
overriding state interest,  and an overriding state interest has not                                                            
been demonstrated in this  case.  An overriding state interest needs                                                            
to be found before  the power of boroughs and municipal  governments                                                            
are limited.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUSH  said the provisions  of HB 13  have already been  provided                                                            
for in  the Anchorage  Charter.  There  is nothing  that HB  13 does                                                            
that could  not be  done at the  local level by  local choice.   The                                                            
administration's  objection  is that  this would  be imposed at  the                                                            
state level on municipal governments.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUSH  said  the  philosophy  being  demonstrated   is  somewhat                                                            
inconsistent with the philosophy  that is being otherwise debated in                                                            
the legislature  -  the formation  of borough  governments is  being                                                            
encouraged  and  so  is  the  centralization   of  local  powers  in                                                            
unorganized  borough  into   boroughs.    Those  efforts  are  being                                                            
undercut  by the  arguments  of HB  13  - that  borough governments                                                             
should not be  the center of power and the power should  reside in a                                                            
smaller unit at the local level.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  said on the philosophical  question, "when  you say                                                            
being debated within these  halls on the expansion and incentives to                                                            
create   borough  governments,"   that  he   did  not  realize   the                                                            
administration shared any of those thoughts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUSH  replied  that  DCED  had  for  many  years  consistently                                                             
supported  those efforts and  he had pointed  out that this  was the                                                            
department's  position.  The administration  has no formal  position                                                            
on that yet.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said he  was curious as to what the administration's                                                            
position  might be on  the entire  subject.  He  thought this  was a                                                            
subject worthy  of consideration  and discussion  and he would  like                                                            
the  administration  participating.   Chairman  Taylor  asked for  a                                                            
recap on Senator  Therriault's question  on whether the funds  could                                                            
be assessed for  specific services and allocated to  that particular                                                            
portion of the service area.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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MR. BUSH said HB 13 implies  that because it allows for increases or                                                            
decreases  of  assessments  based upon  a  different service  for  a                                                            
particular group within  a service area, that the adjustment be made                                                            
on the amount  collected.  There is no requirement  that the service                                                            
area account for an exact dollar for dollar amount.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  said if it were  an extra quarter mill  rate, it                                                            
would just be  that, multiplied times the value of  the homes in the                                                            
sub zone, and he felt that  could be accounted for.  He asked if Mr.                                                            
Bush  would see  a problem  with  language  that said,  "except  for                                                            
administrative  expenses,  funds generated  by the  imposition  of a                                                            
differential  tax in a differential  tax zone  within a service  may                                                            
only be used for services within that tax zone."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUSH said his only  concern would be retaining separate accounts                                                            
for  service  areas for  the  same  service.   He  did not  know  if                                                            
accounting  problems would be created  if administrative  costs were                                                            
added.  He thought this  link should be there but he did not know if                                                            
it would be statutorily required.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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MS. JEAN  WOOD, speaking  via teleconference  from Palmer,  said she                                                            
supported HB 13.   She felt that local control was  the best control                                                            
available and  she thought the people affected should  have a say in                                                            
whether they  wanted to be included  in a service area if  that area                                                            
were  to  be  changed.   At  one  time  the  Mat-Su  Borough  had  a                                                            
differential taxation rate  and when a subdivision in a service area                                                            
wanted  its roads  paved, the  property  owners were  assessed  at a                                                            
different rate than the rest of the service area.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOE  BALASH, staff to  Senator Therriault,  said HB 13  does not                                                            
prohibit  various millage  rates from being  charged within  a given                                                            
service area and it does  not prohibit one group in the service area                                                            
from disproportionately  benefiting  from that assessment.   He said                                                            
it  is  conceivable  that  a  base one  mill  could  be  charged  on                                                            
everyone,  with the  residents  in a given  area  deciding that  the                                                            
wealthy people  up on the hill should be charged an  additional half                                                            
mill  to receive  an additional  service  that only  cost a  quarter                                                            
mill.   The surplus  quarter mill  would be used  to supplement  the                                                            
rest  of the  base.   This is  why legal  services  suggested  that,                                                            
conceptually,  there should be some type of amendment  to state that                                                            
the additional  funds generated  by the  differential taxation  rate                                                            
only be spent within that differential tax zone.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR  noted  that the  committee  had  received  written                                                            
testimony from  Mr. Jim Norcross of  Willow asking for a  limitation                                                            
where HB  13 says, "or  road service areas  affecting not more  than                                                            
five percent of  the total road miles of the service  area, within a                                                            
two year period."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  said he  would  like to  work on  an  amendment                                                            
because he  does not want one area  to impose a higher millage  rate                                                            
on another area and then siphon the funds off.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  suggested that Senator  Therriault work  with legal                                                            
services  to clean up the  language in a way  that would not  change                                                            
the overall concept of the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  announced that HB  13 would be held until  the next                                                            
committee meeting.                                                                                                              

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